allen
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Post by allen on Feb 26, 2009 7:33:09 GMT -5
Please help I have no idea on how to cure it
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Post by ADMIN2 on Feb 26, 2009 20:38:18 GMT -5
Becareful where you buy fish, look at them very well before purchasing and quarantine them. If there is any sign of ich on any of the fish do not buy until they all are cured, especially if the fish share the same water. Sorry but that is the best answer. After you have ich here are some treatment options. Of course these are my opinions and may not work for you. These will work if the tank is fish only:
Try to reduce stress when adding fish this goes along way in keeping fish from dying. Make sure you have some rock for the fish to hide behind. I like to introduce two fish at a time it keeps them from being picked on as much. Also the order in which you add the fish is also important, less aggressive to more aggressive.
1. Feed food that has been soaked in garlic extract. 2. Drop salinity down to 1.017 or lower 3. Raise temp of the tank to 84 degrees gradually 4. You can use copper treatments but the copper will leach into silicone and live rock so if you plan to go reef this would be a bad idea. 5. UV sterilizer. 6. Freshwater dip and hospital tank
Reef tank: 1. Garlic extract 2. UV Sterilizer may help it from spreading. 3. Some people say no sick fish or kick ick will work. 4. Take the infected fish out of the display do a fresh water dip and treat in a hospital tank.
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Post by allen on Mar 2, 2009 20:34:06 GMT -5
i cured the white ich now its the black ick any idea how to get rid of it i was reading and the only way it said was a freshwater dip does anyone know how to do that
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Post by ADMIN2 on Mar 2, 2009 21:23:04 GMT -5
You will need to get a five gallon bucket, fill it up about 1/4 of the way with freshwater. Warm it to as close as you can get to the temp of the tank water, then buffer water to the same pH as the tank water. Put the fish into the bucket for roughly five minutes. You should see the specks drop off the fish. Once you have dipped the fish put it into a hospital tank and continue observation and more treatments if necessary.
A word of caution, FW dips are very hard on fish and may sometimes kill them. The best thing to do is set up a quarantine tank and observe the fish when you first buy it so it can be treated at the onset of a disease. Also be very observant of the tanks in which you are planning to buy a fish. If you see any disease in the tank do not buy. You should also have the store employee feed the tank to make sure the fish is eating before you buy.
Best of luck
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Post by allen on Mar 2, 2009 21:37:29 GMT -5
okay thank you so much you are so much help! im new to this and everything is going wrong
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Post by ADMIN on Mar 2, 2009 21:44:49 GMT -5
How in the world did you get Black ich, I have not seen that in years? It's usually only on yellow tangs from what I remember. My advice to you is this, if you are buying lots of different fish from different places you should prob set up a small QT tank to observe them before putting them into your display. In the end it's a lot easier to do this than to treat a display tank.
"Also be very observant of the tanks in which you are planning to buy a fish. If you see any disease in the tank do not buy. You should also have the store employee feed the tank to make sure the fish is eating before you buy."
I might also add to that, have them hold it for you for a few days, if they wont then don't buy it, its as simple as that.
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Post by allen on Mar 8, 2009 17:52:31 GMT -5
yay ich is gone and has been gone for about a week and a half
i talked to barry and he said wait a week and ron said wait a month\ which would be the best my tang is showing signs of distress and i need to get him out as soon as possible
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Post by naclh20nut on Mar 8, 2009 18:32:42 GMT -5
Out of what? If he is stressed in the QT then there is issues. Do not hold a fish in freshwater for very long.
I bought a yellow tang from JM several weeks ago and 3 days after it hit DT I had black ick. Did two seperate fresh water dips 10 min. each and two weeks later it is gone and has been since.
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Post by ADMIN2 on Mar 8, 2009 19:41:18 GMT -5
You need to do waterchanges very frequently on hospital tanks. You are probably experiencing high ammonia. Test the tank and see if that is the problem. Another thing you need to do is put some pvc fittings in the tank so the tang has places to hide behind.
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Post by ADMIN on Mar 21, 2009 14:41:12 GMT -5
I will say this much black ich is a rare decease. I have not seen it in over 5 years at the shop or in any shipment we have received. I have seen regular ich and when we do encounter it we make no mistake about informing our customers of the situation and lock the systems down until we know it is safe. I don't doubt it's "black ich" which is another word used for black spot disease but I do question the true origin of the pathogen. Remember we will not sell any fish unless we would personally put it in our own tanks at home. Also remember if you are getting fish from multiple places you are increasing the chances of a. Pathogen in your system. If at any time you encounter a pathogen after buying one of our fish, and if that is the only source of your fish/water, we want to know immediately this way we can warn others of potential problems.
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Post by naclh20nut on Mar 21, 2009 22:01:23 GMT -5
I purchased a clean yellow tang in Jan. from you. After about a week it had black ick. I freshwater dipped it and watched it for several weeks. It took about six weeks for the spots to completely clear. I started making my own food and am adding garlic, the spots seemed to disappear after that.
I am not sure if the BI come on the tang or not. I bought some old rock that was in someone elses tank. The rock came with a tank and chemicals, salt. etc.... There was medicine for ick in the box of goodies.
Could ick have been on the rock and lived six months dry?
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Post by ADMIN on Mar 21, 2009 22:15:24 GMT -5
Theoretically possible yes it could have come from the rock or rather in the rock. All I can say is that if we had this in our systems it would have showed up in a lot more tangs than this. That stuff is highly contagious and you are lucky to have gotten rid of it without incident as the parasites often cause secondary problems, fungus, cloudy eye etc which often are the real killers.
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Post by naclh20nut on Mar 22, 2009 8:02:02 GMT -5
I do not know anything about black ick. But I figured it was either already on the tang when it came in from shipment (don't think this is it) or it came from my rock. I have never seen it in the stores tank.
With that said, what if any should I do about the possible outbreak that is in my tank now. Is BI the same kinda creature that regular ick is. It has a life cycle and will stay in tank until I have a sick or stressed fish and then set in? Or what?
If it came from the rock then I am sure it is still floating around.
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Post by ADMIN on Mar 22, 2009 11:22:35 GMT -5
Nope it's a different parasite all together. Regular SW ich is more powerful, will kill by itself. BI or BS is a small parasite much like a flat worm which infects and lives on your fish. It is mostly prevalent on tangs but can live on others as well. It usually weakens a fish till it gets fungus, CE etc. This is what usually kills the infected animal. As for treatment I'm afraid I have never once had to fight it so I don't have any advice on this.
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